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. steve in illinois, democratic caller. here is debtclock.org, showing that we have reached the ceiling, but we will run out of money in mid february or march. go ahead. caller: yes, i believe in a few things the previous caller said, about giving away free phones. i think people get food stamps plus go to food pantries and get food and they have plenty of food. i have seen them sell their food stamps. there is a lot of waste and fraud and abuse in the lower portion. if you want to take a look and see the waste, fraud, and abuse in the military spending and so forth, it is on both sides of the poincoin. we have to take a look at both sides. today our soldiers are coming home in this wasteful war. they are killing themselves faster than they are killing themselves in afghanistan. host: that is a headline this morning, steve, in the papers. caller: we need to get these veterans some help, too, so they stop killing themselves. it is -- you are drawing matchsticks to see which ones have the shortest ones. we do have to cut out some of the waste. we should go by waste first before we should
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